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Migraines, maladies and masts


Tracy-Lee Dorny: 'This was our dream home. We have taken nine years to build it. It has been a haven, and a secure haven for us to live in.'

Tracy-Lee Dorny built high walls to keep her family safe in a city full of threats. She now claims that state of the art security measures can't protect her from the uninvited hazard that landed on her doorstep. An iBurst cell mast was installed in August last year.

Tracy-Lee: 'To watch this big piece of tower go up 30 metres from your bedroom window and know that that is going to be radiating through your home 24/7...'

We all want the technology that connects us to the 21st century, but nobody wants it in their back yard.

Tracy-Lee: 'You are not going to know actually what it is doing to you until it starts doing it to you.'

Within weeks, Tracy says she began to experience unusual symptoms.

Tracy-Lee: 'It was actually quite frightening how quickly things did start happening. Headaches, the nausea, the rashes... it was a burning, itching, stinging... and you like sort of think it's not connected. There were just too many things going wrong with us for there not to be connections.'

Jannie van Zyl (CEO: iBurst): 'These towers radiate electric radiation and there are international standards on how much radiation is allowed on a site like this. And you have to make sure that you fall within those health limits.'

Jannie van Zyl is the CEO of iBurst. He says they conform to international radiation limits. In fact, he says they operate at levels far below the standard.

Jannie: 'To give you an idea, the specific tower was approximately 10 000 times less than what the ICNIRP guidelines and the World Health Organisation set as a limit.'

Karl Muller (E-Mag): 'There is a lot of controversy about these radiation levels. In fact, health problems are reported at one-millionth of the ICNIRP guidelines.'

Karl Muller is with the electromagnetic action group of South Africa. They have serious concerns about standards set by international watchdogs.

Karl: 'They are totally inadequate. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of scientific experiments showing all kinds of health problems, all kinds of biological effects at levels way, way below the ICNIRP levels'

The facts seem to fluctuate, depending on where you stand in the debate.

Jannie: 'You know, there are something like 40 000 - if I do a thumb suck [as] I do not know the exact number - but probably something like 40 000 in South Africa and clearly, probably hundreds or millions worldwide and there has been many, many studies done. There is no concrete evidence that there is a problem with radiation.'

Bongani Bingwa (Carte Blanche Medical presenter): 'There are several empirical studies peer reviewed that raise exactly the concerns the Craigavon community are raising.'

Jannie: 'And there are many, many more studies that say that no correlation can be found.'

Bongani: 'We can play this ping-pong. I can say this study; I can say that study...'

Jannie: 'I've got slightly more studies that you...'

Bongani: '...but the bottom line is there is enough information to raise the concern.'

Jannie: 'Which means then it should be taken further, with proper scientific study.'

The World Health Organisation fact sheet states that 'from all evidence accumulated so far, no adverse health effects have been shown to occur from signals at masts'.

Inversely, their website carries studies which conclude 'there are negative effects, ranging from sleep disturbances to serious illness'.

Regardless of the surplus of contradicting science, Tracy and her family are clear about what they are feeling.

Keegan Dorny: 'You are itching on your body, you are feeling nauseous; you are vomiting a lot, [and] your head feels like it [was] going to explode.'

In a desperate attempt to alleviate his symptoms, Tracey has lined her son Keegan's room with insulation foil.

Keegan: 'Well, it's supposed to stop the radiation from coming through, but it didn't work.'

Tracy-Lee: 'He'd have heart palpitations where he'd say to me, 'Mommy, my heart is going too fast.''

Keegan: 'My heart was racing.'

Tracy-Lee: 'And I just knew that I just couldn't in good faith leave my child here.'

Tracey moved her family out of their home in October last year.'

Tracy-Lee: 'The nausea and headaches and all of that started subsiding. Keegan's rash started clearing because his hadn't been as inflamed as mine. It has taken quite a long time for that to heal.'

In the months since her self-imposed eviction, Tracey discovered she was not the only Craigavon resident with concerns.

Tracy-Lee: 'We suddenly realised we were getting emails where other people were telling us, 'We have got rashes, we've got nausea, we've got vomiting, heart palpitations,' and there was a pattern happening in Craigavon and all those people said they'd never had it before.'

Jannie: 'It is quite normal when a new site is constructed that people will make an association between anything new that happens in your environment, like a big tower going up. Clearly it is extremely visible.'

To date, Tracey has a database of complaints from about 45 residents in her neighbourhood.

Woman 1: 'Before I wasn't like this. I am working there for 10 years. Now it just changed for three months.'

Woman 2: 'I started experiencing symptoms that I've never experienced before.'

Woman 1: 'All my body is itchy and it is burning. I am scratching and I can't even sleep.'

Woman 2: 'Itchy skin, bloodshot eyes, headaches, inability to concentrate, I'd get an inflamed sensation down the one side of my body.'

Man: 'Like hot flushes, headaches and, you know, all those things.'

Boy: 'I haven't really been able to sleep properly.'

Woman 3: 'My stomach is burning inside. I feel like I can vomit. And I've got a headache.'

Jannie: 'I do not for a minute think that they are imagining the symptoms. The symptoms are real. Right now we are questioning the correlation because we've not seen any facts that can conclude the correlation between the tower and the symptoms.'

Woman 2: 'Can I prove that the symptoms [are from] the tower going up? No, I can't. Does it correspond with the exact time I started working from home, did the symptoms get worse at that time. Yes, they did. And I'm not going to gamble with that factor. You know, there's a book called, 'Would you stick your head in the microwave oven?'... and that about sums is up for me.'

Karl: 'Broadband radiation, broadband wireless like iBurst, it uses a wider spectrum of frequency and the health problems that have been reported very specifically with broadband include burning skin.'

Karl Muller says the Craigavon residents are showing symptoms similar to those cited in international mast studies.

Karl: 'You have a choice of using a handset. You don't have a choice about being radiated by masts. You find that a syndrome; it is headaches, sleep disorders, fatigue, memory and concentration problems, dizziness, skin tingling. Those are all the peer reviewed scientific studies on the World Health Organisation database; every single one shows a problem.'

Jannie: 'We are not medical professionals. We can't go and run studies. The best that we can do, like any other corporate citizen that's got some kind of responsibility, is we say, 'Give us the guidelines,' and hopefully those guidelines are set by the experts. And in this case the international body is the ICNIRP. If somebody disagrees with the ICNIRP, by all means take it up at that level.'

The ICNIRP advises the World Health Organisation.

Bongani: 'We turned to the World Health Organisation, who didn't respond to our numerous emails and requests for interviews. So we put a few calls through to reputable scientists around the world with strong views on the subject.'

Prof Ollie Johannsen is a neuroscientist based in Stockholm.

Bongani: 'If you look at the WHO website it does have a lot of information that suggests that in fact these electromagnetic fields are not a danger to the public.'

[On phone] Prof Ollie Johannsen (Neuroscientist Karolinksa Institute, Stockholm): 'Well, hopefully they are completely right because I have coined the expression that it is the largest full scale human experiment ever. And of course I am most happy if I'm wrong.'

Prof Johannsen found some support for his warnings with the European Parliament in August 2008.

[On phone] Prof Johannsen: 'The European Parliament clearly has said, and with all wireless techniques included, that the public guidelines are obsolete and need to be revised.'

On the other side of the globe - and the debate - is Prof Mays Swicord:

[On phone] Prof Mays Swicord (Former Chief Scientist Motorola, USA): 'If you want to analyse the database and you look at the weight of the evidence, the weight of evidence does not support the contention that there's a health effect of RF energy at those low levels - levels being emitted by base stations and cellphones.'

This is the view held by most industry-funded research.

Independent researchers like Munich based Prof Franz Adlkolfer generally raise doubts

[On phone] Prof Franz Adlkolfer (Internal Medicine Free University, Berlin): 'If we look at the data which we have so far, one can say it's not proven yet. But if we talk about the probability, the situation is absolutely different.'

So the science is inconclusive. Perhaps the symptoms are all in the mind?

Bongani: 'What about the nocebo effect? Couldn't this just be in their minds?

[On phone] Prof Johannsen: 'Of course, but people have done studies on rats, mice, tomato plants, bacteria, and so on - and you cannot say that the effects seen there are in anyone's mind.'

In Craigavon, Tracy says even her pets began to show signs of discomfort.

Tracy-Lee: 'They would be having a runny tummy, and I noticed that they were vomiting [and] also biting their paws. And I know the feeling; I thought they are starting to get these same symptoms and feelings.'

She took them to a well respected vet.

Tracy-Lee: 'He examined them from head to toe, took blood tests... There were no parasites, no worms, nothing that could be causing their vomiting, upset stomachs and chewing their arms.'

Tracey has no doubt about cause and effect.

Karl: 'In Craigavon the mast is basically beaming straight into the child's bedroom. This is not good.'

Karl Muller believes that the precautionary principle should be applied to masts in residential areas.

Karl: 'Where you don't know what the effect of some operation is and there is some indication that there may be a danger, or risk or hazard, and you are not sure - just be careful, take precautions, minimise exposure.'

Jannie: 'It is not for me to try and set international standards or even local standards in terms of health. It is very much for me to follow what standards are set.'

Bongani: 'And what I am saying is that there is enough concern even around those standards. It is not good enough to say, 'Well, until international bodies sort it out I'm just going to leave it,' even when you've got people in your area, in your country, your consumers, saying there is a problem.'

To meet his consumers' concerns, Jannie claims he agreed to turn off the mast for a little while.

Jannie: 'We went to quite an extraordinary step. We suggested: 'Let's turn off the tower and let's see if your symptoms improve.''

Bongani: 'Would that not suggest that you are kind of running a type of clinical trial on these residents?'

Jannie: 'I would have liked to have seen a proper medical trial around this from day one, and that's what we've been asking for.'

Karl: 'The people of this area don't want a scientific experiment to be conducted on them to see: how do you react to broadband microwave radiation? I actually think it is outrageous to say, let's try this little experiment and then we'll turn it back on again and see: does it hurt now, are you feeling sick again?'

Residents claim that the switch off is a superficial gesture, which will not yield any measurable results. They want nothing less than the removal of the mast.

Woman 2: 'I'd like it removed, I'd like it switched off and I'd like it to come down. I'm not going to gamble with my health.'

Woman 4: 'If somebody wants to put [the mast] in their own garden they can take [it] away and put [it] in their own garden.'

As long as Tracy believes that the mast is causing her family harm, she will not feel safe in her home.

Tracy-Lee: 'You know, our Constitution says that we have a right to a healthy environment, health safety... it is our right. It is our Constitutional right to be able to live in our homes and to be safe and protected.'


IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER:
While every attempt has been made to ensure this transcript or summary is accurate, Carte Blanche or its agents cannot be held liable for any claims arising out of inaccuracies caused by human error or electronic fault. This transcript was typed from a transcription recording unit and not from an original script, so due to the possibility of mishearing and the difficulty, in some cases, of identifying individual speakers, errors cannot be ruled out.
Comments
Anonymous 19:22 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
I developed a similar rash and symptoms last week. It was diagnosed as a typical allergic reaction. Nothing has caused it. I struggled to breathe & my whole body was swollen. It reoccurs every morning
   
Anonymous 19:30 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
The issue is it is a worldwide multi-million rand enterprise against an individual or small group. The constitution will not protect the individual against it as with many other issues that affect SA
   
Tracey101 19:36 - 08 Feb 10
Tracey101
Seriously?Do you want to tell me that all these people who are complaining DO NOT own a cellphone? Highly unlikely!The one comment " would you like to put your head in a microwave?" well, if you think about it every time you make use of one of life's luxuries ie your cell you are doing such! Currently I am using wirless connection, I am yet to get a headache, rash , just unfortune the nausea is from listening to this rubbish & don't send sms remarks, just stick your head in the microwave!
   
Anonymous 19:40 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
"Would that not suggest that you are kind of running a type of clinical trial on these residents?" What a ridiculous comment! I would have swtchd of my twr and not tell any1. See who keeps complaini
   
Anonymous 19:52 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Very dissapointed in Bongani and Carte Blanche! Very one sided! What happened to reporting on both sides and being impartial? Bongani attached iBurst full on and gave his full support to the others
   
Jakezp 20:02 - 08 Feb 10
Jakezp
I have been working on these towers people get the facts right none off my installers nor me have had any off these problems you use RF the whole day your cell even your dstv decoder is a reciever so wat are you taking on iBurst witch none off us cant be without
   
Anonymous 22:05 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Wait till you suffer ! These 'towers' cause havock on those in the first 150m-200m of it base. When live & eat & sleep it disrupts the human body.. Look @ researsch done in 1976 @ WITS Univ.
   
Anonymous 06:59 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
I am fighting with iburst on their general shoddy customer service, so viewing last nights show and the lack luster attitude of the CEO of iburst proves the comment that a fish stinks from its head.
   
Tjopsta 08:20 - 09 Feb 10
Tjopsta
Does anyone know how long it normally takes for these videos to be available? I would love to show this video to the powers that be cause our offices are basicly inside a huge cellphone tower with the masts about 5 meters away from me.
   
Anonymous 08:46 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
People, I live next to a tower. (150m) No Symptoms. To Blame a tower, is silly and conveniant. while possible, its not probable. Not enough of a controlled environment to blame anything specific.
   
Anonymous 08:52 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
oh, and no symptoms to any animals in the region(I know the vet in the area extremely well), or any symptoms with any people in the estate. Lets ban cars, the pollute even more and there is more proof
   
Splatcommando 08:56 - 09 Feb 10
Splatcommando
I am a specialist Radio Frequency engineer. I work in a laboratory that has radio equipment in it emitting RF radiation all day. sometimes at much higher levels that a cell tower or Iburst tower, and I have yet to develop a rash headache or burning sensation. Regarding the female who asked if you would stick your head in a microwave? Seriously? would you? if you did you plain stupid, that is highly concentrated radiation, which is needed to creating the heating effect.
   
Splatcommando 09:03 - 09 Feb 10
Splatcommando
Towers and other area coverage transmitters do not emit concentrated radiation into the atmosphere. The only time I have ever seen anyone get RF burns is from actually touching an antenna on a radio mast while transmitting. And those burns were as a result of the electrical properties of the antenna more than the actual radiated energy. I personally think that its all in the mind...
   
Anonymous 12:17 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Carte Blanche is honestly becoming a joke. It's this kind of media treatment of the issue that fuels the ignorance and hysteria.
   
Anonymous 16:57 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Clearly Carte Blanche did no research into the matter whatsoever. Since when is Karl Muller an authority on the subject? Why did they not get comments from the WHO or the SA representatives?
   
Anonymous 17:03 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Thousands of mobile towers covering millions of people in SA alone and ONE woman is suddenly proof that there is a problem. And Bongani gets taken in. Poor show, you can better.
   
Anonymous 17:05 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Google for a book available online called "Cellular Telephone, Russian Roulette", by Robert C.Kane. He was a Motorola engineer who died from a brain tumor. Claims industry knows all about the dangers!
   
Anonymous 17:08 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Carte Blanche said that they tried to get comment from the WHO on this, but WHO didn't respond. Probably because the person in charge of health and emr at the WHO is...wait for it... an engineer!!!!!
   
Anonymous 18:47 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Emily van Deventer? Yes she is an engineer and much better qualified than Karl Muller who in an open letter told her that she is incompetent. No wonder the WHO is writing this case off
   
Anonymous 18:48 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
I get the odd headache, skin outbreak, bout of nausea. But then I live in the city, eat junk food, don't exercise and enjoy the odd drink. But in Craighavon everyone is perfectly healthy. I'm moving!
   
Anonymous 18:54 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
@Bongani. Did you get any medical proof from these people or their doctors? If so, why did you not air it? I suspect there never was any proof. Yet you reported it as "fact". Pure BS reporting!!!!
   
Anonymous 19:07 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Medical proof? Since when is proof a prerequisite for a jiucy story? Bongani should go and report for 'Die Son'. He'll fit in perfectly.
   
Anonymous 19:17 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Coming soon: Carte Blanche: Conspiracy Theory - We show that JFK was shot by aliens (as per nutcase who lives in tinfoil house, but we'll take his word for it. After all, who needs proof?)
   
Anonymous 20:35 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Can't believe this is still newsworthy. It was shown that the tower was off for 2 months when these health claims were made. Residents ended up looking like complete twits.
   
Anonymous 21:15 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
I hope Tracey Lee Dorny made herself a hat out of the tin foil she lined her bedroom with. She clearly needs it.
   
Anonymous 22:22 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
Who is this 'Electromagnetic Action Group' of which Karl Muller is a (the only?) member. Can't find any information on them online. Or is this one lonely guy jerking off to his own importance?
   
Anonymous 07:29 - 10 Feb 10
Anonymous
Muller claims he is a EMR researcher and has lots of proof on EMR problems. Some of his claims are extremely outlandish. Yet he has never publish any proof at all. Researcher? No. Conspiracy nut? Yes.
   
Splatcommando 07:52 - 10 Feb 10
Splatcommando
With regards to that woman and her tin foil story and claiming the radiation still got into her sons room, firstly, she made a Faraday cage out of his room, which would have reflected and rearranged all the electromagnetic energy, and secondly, did anyone EVER take a spectrum analyser or vector network analyser into that house and measure the RF radiation levels?? You can take a transmitter and stick it inside an empty paint tin and it reflects the RF around inside with radiating out!
   
Anonymous 14:02 - 10 Feb 10
Anonymous
@Splatcommando: It was reported that RF tests were done and the levels reported in the press were 0.0048V/m. This against the international (ICNIRP) safety level of 58V/m.
   
Splatcommando 14:52 - 10 Feb 10
Splatcommando
@Anon, firstly you do not measure RF radiation in Volts per metre, you measure it in dBm (decibels with reference to 1mW) and secondly if they were done, inside that room before and after that Faraday cage was installed, they should have recorded them on a Polar plot and published these plots for the rest of us who are specialist RF engineers to assess. Unless a feild strength meter was used in the measurements, which then it should be micro Watts per square cm, which is only an idication anyway
   
Splatcommando 15:15 - 10 Feb 10
Splatcommando
appologies. correction, you can measure the Electric feild of a transmitter in Volts per metre. However, the RF radiation is measured in dBm. The volt per meter, or some fractional unit based on it, is used as a means of specifying the intensity of the electromagnetic field (EM field) produced by a radio transmitter. Although an EM field contains a magnetic (M) component as well as an electric (E) component, the relative field strength of radio signals is easier to measure in free space by...
   
Splatcommando 15:20 - 10 Feb 10
Splatcommando
... sampling only the E component. The (M) component or magnetic component is what you should be measuring inorder to determine the amount of Radiation present...
   
Anonymous 16:54 - 10 Feb 10
Anonymous
@Splat, guess they measure in V/m as it is the unit used by the ICNIRP to set the safety levels. AFAIK you can convert directly between the two. Some Googling needed. :)
   
Anonymous 17:05 - 10 Feb 10
Anonymous
Calculators: http://www.compeng.com.au/emc_conversion_tables_rf_calculator.aspx .......emc_conversion_tables_power_calculator.aspx .......emc_conversion_tables_field_strength_calculator.aspx
   
Splatcommando 08:57 - 11 Feb 10
Splatcommando
Another point of interest, you can measure Electrical feild strength off an overhead power line as well... Ever heard the buzzing noise of a power line? That is why I asked if a spectrum analyser or vector network analyser had been used to measure the radiation, as you cannot define where the electrical feild comes from using a feild strength meter or what its magnetic component is.
   
Anonymous 13:29 - 11 Feb 10
Anonymous
Instead of making the poor child sit in a tinfoil room, she could make a tinfoil box and put it on his head. At least then he can play outside.
   
Anonymous 16:02 - 11 Feb 10
Anonymous
Good read on this issue: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/15/electrosensitives-to.html
   
Anonymous 16:55 - 11 Feb 10
Anonymous
Radiation from a cellphone or cellphone tower is not the same as from a wireless internet tower - you must compare apples with apples
   
Anonymous 11:36 - 12 Feb 10
Anonymous
Obviously all the IT nerds will defend and mock this subject, because long term iBurst and all wireless internet companies' staff's jobs are at stake - more important than people's health and lives?!
   
Anonymous 14:55 - 12 Feb 10
Anonymous
No, Typically it will be because your so called IT nerds have more knowledge on the subject than you have, and also because they know how to use google and filter BS from valuable info.
   
Anonymous 13:09 - 13 Feb 10
Anonymous
At least "IT nerds" go to some effort to establish underlying facts and research. Unlike these nutcases (including Carte Blance) who just believe any non-proven cr@p without doing any research.
   
Anonymous 23:55 - 13 Feb 10
Anonymous
Why bother to do any research if you can have conspiracy nuts spewing their nonsense on TV? I'm sure Muller got off on finally been given a platform. For years everyone ignored him, including the WHO.
   
Anonymous 13:49 - 14 Feb 10
Anonymous
Exactly. Muller has no relevant qualifications, credentials or published research and claims to represent a body (EMAG) that does not even exist. Yet Carte Blance takes him seriously?
   
Anonymous 13:52 - 14 Feb 10
Anonymous
On myBroadband Karl Muller claimed that being years ahead of his time as a teacher was a suitable qualification. I kid you not. That is exactly how he justified his (lack of) qualifications.
   
Anonymous 13:55 - 14 Feb 10
Anonymous
He keeps on making crazy claims but refuse to provide any proof and when pushed starts threatening people with violence. It's all on myBB. Wonder if Bongani ever bothered to read Mullers loon ravings?
   
Anonymous 11:39 - 15 Feb 10
Anonymous
Best to stop talking about Karl Muller and his non-existent Electromagnetic Action Group. He'll just see any comments as justification that he is right.
   
Splatcommando 13:59 - 22 Feb 10
Splatcommando
All you people who are *Anon*, before you start slandering the "IT Nerds" how about taking some resposibility for you comment and putting a name next to it?? Secondly mr apples with apples, Cell radiation and wireless radiation is still RF radiation, it is the same thing at different frequencies!! And they both have identical properties, the difference is in the modulation schemes... And no Im not an IT Nerd, Im a Radio Frequency Design Specialist.
   
Anonymous 09:54 - 07 Mar 10
Anonymous
Why condemn before studying the issues? These towers are hazardous. These people deserve respect. Studies clearly show this: http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/rf/masts.asp Study before speaking people.
   
Anonymous 10:03 - 07 Mar 10
Anonymous
"To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant." -- ABA These towers *can* be quite hazardous. These people just figured it out before some of you. Stop maligning them. LISTEN!
   
Anonymous 01:38 - 10 Apr 10
Anonymous
I have the same problems, living under a mast, in the UK? So i must be making it up as well? For the IT nerds out there who know everything. Sad! Everyones bodies react in so many differant ways.
   

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