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Blue Lights II


This police car [on screen] is attached to the flying squad in Pretoria... the sight of which, on patrol in your neighbourhood, should send out feelings of well-being.

But it's alleged that the policemen to whom this car was assigned on the nights of the 12th and 13th of January this year were up to no good.

Their behaviour caused havoc in the lives of Anli and Deon Groenewald who were subjected to harassment and physical abuse over 24 hours.

The Groenewald's case is another instance in a litany of abuses perpetrated by uniformed police and traffic officers.

[Carte Blanche 24 Jan 2010] Two weeks ago on Carte Blanche, it was the Blue Light Bullies of KwaZulu-Natal; unmarked vehicles with blue lights, sometimes protecting VIPs, sometimes simply harassing motorists on provincial highways and byways.

[Carte Blanche 24 Jan 2010] Jude Ward: 'He comes up right behind you, he's weaving all the time, the blue lights are flashing on the dashboard...'

[Carte Blanche 24 Jan 2010] Jude Ward of Camperdown in KZN fell prey to a speeding traffic policeman and when she sought refuge at her local police station, the cops there allegedly looked on as she was assaulted.

[Carte Blanche 24 Jan 2010] Jude: 'He took my head and choked me, and hit my head on the floor. I actually looked out of the corner of my eye thinking if some black shoes walked my way they would pull him off me. Nobody assisted.'

We asked viewers who had had similar experiences to share their stories with us... and we've been inundated with emails and phone calls, some from as far afield as Australia and France.

It seems that more and more police officers disregard standing orders, procedures and the Constitutional rights of the public.

There are also marked similarities in the cases; the victims being pushed off the road, excessive force used and sometimes racial undertones.

Anli Groenewald was stopped by three policemen in the flying squad car.

Anli Groenewald: 'The one that was in the passenger seat said he would like to take this white bitch to Mamelodi and then they will show me what they will do with me there.'

Anli was on her way home in the early hours of the morning when she noticed a police car alongside the road.

It followed her, blue lights flashing.

Thinking they must be on their way to a crime scene, she carried on driving.

Then the driver waved a gun at her.

So she stopped and asked what the problem was.

Anli: 'He said to me that he can stop me anytime because he is the police and besides that, that time of the night all vehicles on the road are suspect.'

Chantal Rutter (Carte Blanche guest presenter): 'By coincidence, Anli's husband Deon and two of his friends were coming home at the same time. She managed to catch their attention, they pulled over to the side of the road to enquire about what was going on, but the police wanted none of it.'

Deon Groenewald: 'He was holding his R5. I said, 'Better tell me what's going on, or shoot me. I need to know what's happening - this is my wife, I need to know.''

Despite telling Anli that all vehicles are considered suspect that time of the night we have established that the officers never once accessed the eNaTis system - the national vehicle registry - to establish the car's ownership.

Anli was only allowed to go when a female officer, who had been called in as back up, intervened.

Anli: 'The police woman said to the guys, 'You are abusing your authority and you must please get in your cars and go.''

One would hope that an ordeal like this happens to a very few people and maybe once in a life time, but not in this case. Less than 18 hours later at around ten o' clock at night the Groenewalds were on their way home and as they turned into Old Farm Road - their street - the very same police vehicle was behind them.

Presenter: 'A printout from the Groenewalds' car tracking system shows they were pulled over just before a quarter-past-ten.'

As soon as they stopped, Anli was plucked from the car, handcuffed, and shoved into the back of the police vehicle, which then sped off.

Anli: 'They didn't read [me] my rights; they didn't tell me why they were arresting me. I was actually terrified... and also the pain I experienced because they handcuffed me behind my back. I [kept] on asking them, 'Please, you don't have to cuff me,' or 'just loosen the cuffs a bit,' and they just refused.'

The three policemen, Inspector Sebeko, Contable Malema and a Constable Malete, took Anli to the nearby Garsfontein police station.

She speaks Sesotho and soon realised what kind of a night they had planned for her.

Anli: 'They were saying they will teach me a lesson tonight. At about 12:30 they brought me a form where they actually made accusations against me for speeding away from the police, assaulting the police, bribing a police officer and driving under the influence.'

Anli says none of this was true.

But the reality was that she was under arrest and had to remain behind bars until the next morning.

The police, for some reason, left her handcuffs on in the cell.

Anli's desperate cries for help alerted the entire neighbourhood.

Anli: 'I kept on screaming, 'Deon please come and help me! Ask them to loosen it. I'm in the cell, what can i do?''

Deon: ' You know on the one hand I wished for super powers to turn this place around, and on the other, I wished I was in jail, going through that. I was feeling so sorry for her, and I wish I could just pull her out there and disappear. I was just banging on the window saying, 'I'm here, just calm down.''

At four minutes after one - and still tightly handcuffed - the police took Anli to hospital to have her blood tested for alcohol.

Deon tried to follow them.

The car's tracking system reveals that Deon reached speeds of up to a 150km/h in his attempt to keep up with the police vehicle.

He failed and returned to the police station.

Deon: 'I was just praying for God to protect her, for no harm to be done to her.'

The police later brought Anli back and locked her up for the rest of the night.

The next day, she was released on a R1000 bail.

These pictures of her bruised body and swollen hands were taken later that day.

Anli: 'Because of huge pressure for almost five hours with those cuffs, those nerves are damaged.'

Incidents like these have become commonplace and have compelled Andre Snyman of eBlockwatch to developed a communication system where people can instantly put police abuse on record.

He calls it 'Police the Police'.

Andre Snyman: 'Every South African thinks that they have to put money in their ID book so that, when they do get stopped, they have to bribe the cop. I think it has gotten to a stage now that it is just completely out of hand.'

By pressing a dedicated button on your cellphone, it turns into a recording device, where you give an eyewitness account of what's happening to you at that moment.

In this dramatisation, a woman is recording what she is seeing.

When the cellphone connection is terminated - either by you or somebody else - the information is immediately stored on a server and a voice recording is sent to four cellphone numbers, chosen by you on registering for the service.

The voice recording is received as an email on a cellphone or a laptop.

The service requires one to sign up on the eBlockwatch website.

Part time cattle farmer Andre Nel and his wife Marie moved to this small-holding on the outskirts of Pretoria to bring up their three children, away from the city.

In December last year, Andre and his farm workers were battling to get a cow and her calf into a camp on the farm.

Presenter: 'There was a lot of action trying to get the animals in the camp and two strangers standing on the opposite side of the road then started making fun of the Nels and their workers. When the workers complained about this, Andre asked the two strangers to mind their own business and leave them alone.'

But 15 minutes later the two strangers were back, accompanied by seven armed policemen in a vehicle.

Andre Nel: 'The one guy said to me, 'Listen, shut up - don't make any noise.' Then he grabbed me by my shirt and started hitting me.'

When Marie tried to intervene, she says she was knocked to the ground.

Andre: 'And then that guy that grabbed me... the policeman that grabbed me by the shirt and tore my shirt, hit her with the back hand like this... and she fell to the ground. And at that stage I got so furious that I told him, 'Listen, now I'm going to fight back.'

Marie managed to free herself and flagged down a passing car.

The Nel's children and the occupants of the car, including a baby, were all allegedly pepper-sprayed by the police.

Marie: 'If the children were not a threat to them, why spray pepper gas into their eyes?'

Tempers flared as the men tried to protect their families against the armed policemen.

Marie: 'I looked at my daughter and she was looking at me as she was saying, 'Mommy, we are all dying today?' That's when my fear started. I became terrified.'

Presenter: 'At this point at least 40 to 50 farmers stopped here at the Nel's farm, noticing a problem. This may have frightened the police who tried to leave, but they crashed into another vehicle and allegedly knocked over a bystander.'

The Pretoria North police station in the meantime dispatched two vehicles to the farm.

The situation apparently reached boiling point when an officer from the station asked one of the rogue cops for identification.

Andre: 'Then things got out of hand between them. Then they arrested that guy. And those police officers demanded that they put me in the back of the vehicle as well.'

A charge of crimen injuria against Andre was later withdrawn. The Nels still don't know who the rogue policemen were, but our own investigation has revealed that they are from the police protection security service division. They were apparently on their way home in a police vehicle after work.

Marie: ' They gave our children fear. Not just for other people, but for police officers. Because afterwards the children asked us, 'Mommy, what if something must happen to us now? Who do we call? Because the police officers won't help us - look what they did to us.''

In a statement, police told us they were investigating the allegations made by the Nels and the Groenewalds, and that the driving under the influence case against Anli Groenewald was ongoing.


IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER:
While every attempt has been made to ensure this transcript or summary is accurate, Carte Blanche or its agents cannot be held liable for any claims arising out of inaccuracies caused by human error or electronic fault. This transcript was typed from a transcription recording unit and not from an original script, so due to the possibility of mishearing and the difficulty, in some cases, of identifying individual speakers, errors cannot be ruled out.
Comments
shabsta 19:40 - 07 Feb 10
shabsta
Blue lights no longer have any respect or honesty. Metro and SAPS are the biggest thugs - the only difference is they carry badges with their guns. Its the wild west out there, fend for yourself and your family because the state sure as hell doesn't give a hoot- and this attitude is evident on the ground.
   
Anonymous 20:07 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
Police needs to understand the prevention methods in stead of school bully tactics to enforce respect. One cannot be policed by thugs.
   
Anonymous 20:14 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
Unlawfully arrested on own property 3 years ago, civil suit still pending. Police incompetent and inexperienced. How can you combat crime if you don't know the law and crime?
   
Anonymous 20:15 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
So we cant trust the Police, whats new? My question is what do you do when a black ford Focus fitted with blue lights and siren pulls you over and four men dressed in Police uniform hijack you?
   
Anonymous 20:21 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
Am a site agent and wanted to help traffic officers to regulate traffic at a accident scene on my site on an Highway. Traffic cop assaulted me. His supervisor told me to drop case. Not happy Mpumalang
   
Anonymous 20:27 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
Sat 16th Jan 21h00 - Plain clothes police in plain car pull guns on our car to pull us over, we got into our drive and they proceeded to get physical and abusive. Loaded R5's in our faces. Thugs!!!!!!
   
Anonymous 20:35 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
Its ridicules that we should suffer under them, why don’t they get lock up and same abuse applied to them, When they get killed they ask why? Hmm I wonder don’t you? They should get fired ASAP.
   
Anonymous 20:51 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
Thabazimbi: Abednego Moselane wrote a letter to the local newspaper about 6 policemen beating a young man who's father was being fined. She took pictures on her cellphone and was cuffed and arrested.
   
Anonymous 21:00 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
I was abused by a traffic offer 2 years ago, we won our case hands down last year. We also won our case against the policy offers who attacked my husband. There is hope if you have a bitboel lawyer.
   
Anonymous 21:38 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
The eblockwatch.co.za single-button service only sends an SMS to 4 people. It does NOT record voice centrally. It's a gross miss-representation by Carte Blanche. Please investigate for yourselves.
   
Anonymous 22:24 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
It is clear that a significant percentage of SA's SAPS and metro officers are nothing more than a bunch of thugs. When will these unlawful police actions end?!
   
louisb 22:34 - 07 Feb 10
louisb
Dit is te wonderlik dat daar sulke hulp en diens beskikbaar is. Ek is egter van mening dat dit 'n absolute skande is dat daar 'n koste van tot R50.00 per maand betrokke is om jou mense en geliefde te laat weet dat die SA POLISIE besig is om jou en jou naastes te " molesteer" en jou in jou diepste menswees te verneder.. Dit is absoluut verregaande ! Dit is verdomp erger as die ergste menseregte skending. Dit is goed om PARAAT te wees, maar in die geval teen Staat en SAPD.Ons is GATVOL
   
Anonymous 23:09 - 07 Feb 10
Anonymous
Your program tonight raises lots of concerns. Have you thought of loading the two interviews on youtube where our overseas relatives and friends can view it as well?
   
Anonymous 08:15 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
I have no respect for policemen. They abuse their socalled authority and expect us to help them. I will rather die than call the police. Total useless and corrupt, Cele included.
   
Anonymous 08:22 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
HOW DO WE FIND OUT ABOUT THE NUMBER TO DEDICATED NUMBER TO CALL THAT ACTS AS A RECORDING DEVICE AS SUGGESTED ABOVE. PLS CAN YOU EMAIL ME THE DETAILS SO I CAN CONTACT THEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH HAYLEY
   
Anonymous 08:27 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Please Note that Silveton Police Station are up to no good same thing happend to my h
   
Anonymous 08:44 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
What is the name of the tracking device mentioned in the ''Blue Light'' programe Please?
   
Anonymous 09:01 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
These type of stories illustrates the bad shape the police service is in - criminals given authority and guns, they can't manage themselves, let alone public safety !
   
Anonymous 09:21 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Cop pulled my girlfriend and I over and proceeded to make up what we had done wrong, including no seatbelt which I had just removed to get out of my car as requested. Bullied us and racially abused us
   
Anonymous 09:36 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
You give a baboon a gun, badge and some authority and this is what you get. I have always said we will have to fight our new government one day, and this shows I was quite correct.
   
RM29 09:39 - 08 Feb 10
RM29
Me and my boyfriend were looking for parking at a shop when a police car with four uniform police men almost drove into us my boyfriend said "look where you are driving" they pulled in front of us, the officer got out opened my boyfriends door trying to pull him out of the car, i asked what did we do wrong and they started violently screaming racial abuse saying that they are going to take my boyfriend and teach him a lesson and threatening him! I was terrified !!
   
Anonymous 10:38 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
I was beaten in Stellenbosch SAP after a DUI. I was sprayed with pepper spray so I couldn't make out who was hitting me. Before they took my stuff they hit a coloured guy so I knew I was in trouble.
   
Braam33 11:16 - 08 Feb 10
Braam33
The service is free and only requires one to sign up on the eBlockwatch website. Once signed up you are required to pay a monthly fee to activate the service. Why say it's free if any payment is required?
   
elmariep 11:32 - 08 Feb 10
elmariep
Just read in the paper this morning that a woman was raped by the police in Knysna. I want to know is there anything we can do? Can Carte Blanche help to get answers from the Police? This is outragious. This country of ours is going to shambles. If we cannot rely on the Police, it means that we are not save at all in our country. We have a President, who is sleeping with whoever he wants to, should have been in jail and his best friend is the Head of Police!!!
   
Anonymous 12:03 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Kindly advise whether the Carte Blanche episode of Sunday, 07 February 2010 will repeat. Regards Bernd & Nina Mauschke Swakopmund, Namibia
   
Anonymous 12:51 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
I am surprised that the police hasn't done anything to one of the Carte Blanche reporters, since they are they ones who expose them for the monsters that the police really are.
   
Anonymous 12:54 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
I was beaten up by vredenburg SAP on Sat27/06/09 after DUI. Got pepper sprayed and assaulted after asking them to take me to the toilet, Got documented scars with my GP.
   
Anonymous 13:58 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
I was attacked and arrested for arguing on 31 Jan 2010 by a plain clothes officer......only once i was at the police station did he identify himself......he was extremely aggressive
   
Anonymous 15:27 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Hi Guys, An anazing response from many South Africans who want to assist eblockwatch.co.za nail the bad cops. Firstly I would like you to google eblockwatch and see what we have done over the years.
   
eblockwatch.co.za 15:33 - 08 Feb 10
eblockwatch.co.za
I am Andre Snyman from eblockwatch and I will give every person who registers as a member a number to dial to record the shady cops. Giving bribes whatever. The idea is to keep the police on their toes and to make them wary of taking bribes. How is works is simple. Register FOR FREE on www.eblockwatch.co.za. Look at the number to save which is on the home page. Put this on a speed dial and when flagged down it records on our server. When switched off it send the message to your supporters.
   
Anonymous 15:39 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Am still in court a yr later fighting off assault charge after I was assualted. When the 2 metro thugs tried to put my 2 small kids in the police van I fought back. Was black and blue - even pvt parts
   
Anonymous 15:40 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Hallo world. Welcom to the new ZIMBABWE!!! Were the "previously opressed" are terrorists, and abuse their power!!! It is time for REVOLUTION!!!
   
eblockwatch.co.za 16:57 - 08 Feb 10
eblockwatch.co.za
If you go to www.eblockwatch.co.za you will see a number on the home page. This is police the police number. Save it to your cellphone and add it as a speed dial. When you dial it it costs the normal cell phone rates. It starts to record what you saying. Describe the police pulling you over and give details of registration number and numbers painted on the car. Tell him he is being monitored by police the police and that the conversation is going directly to your mates and the press if need be.
   
Anonymous 20:20 - 08 Feb 10
Anonymous
Police cannot be trusted. Always a race issue.
   
Anonymous 09:36 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
I get so mad when I hear about abuse of power, how can you respect the boys in blue when they attack civilians, are they scared of criminals?
   
Anonymous 11:37 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
I am totally shocked and appalled by these actions of the SAPS. Our friend was assaulted on Friday the 5th February 2010 by several police officers. The story was published in the Cape Argus on 6t
   
Anonymous 11:48 - 09 Feb 10
Anonymous
My husband and I drive a foreign car and we are continuously harassed by JMPD, esp. around woodmead because they want bribes. I feel sorry for foreigners visiting the country for the World Cup.
   
Anonymous 17:52 - 10 Feb 10
Anonymous
Cops in this country have no respect. They could learn a few things from their overseas counterparts. You also have to look at their new boss Mr Cowboy Cele and wonder.....
   
galengrassi 17:53 - 10 Feb 10
galengrassi
Just have to look at their new boss Mr 'Cowboy' Cele and wonder why they are like they are. They have no respect in my opinion and personally I HATE cops, good one is a dead one!!
   
Anonymous 10:56 - 11 Feb 10
Anonymous
Mr cele is just as guilty of this abuse. a lady who works for us saw about 3 police vans and police in uniforms standing bu a shopping place by us with bottles of black lables in their hands.
   
jgraaff 10:08 - 12 Feb 10
jgraaff
Carte Blanche...please, you have to give us feedback on the progress of these stories. It is of the utmost importance to our democracy that these police officers be identified and brought to answer for these hidious acts of voilence. It is of no use reporting and we never hear of it again. And this week again police racism blossomed with the kidnapping case of the Van der Bank boy in Danville. We need to know that these people will be brought to task.
   
BAKGAT60 11:55 - 12 Feb 10
BAKGAT60
In our local newspaper a similar story appear on 5 February 2010 about a black person in Thabazimbi , who had a experience with local SAPD. May be they can send you this artical. Pone number 014-777 1620 and the owner Mr Pieter Coetzee
   
Anonymous 09:10 - 17 Feb 10
Anonymous
Hi there, I work near the Garsfontein police station and often work late into the eveny at the attorneys firm where I work. How do I join "Police the Police"?
   
Anonymous 12:31 - 17 Feb 10
Anonymous
Hi C/B, i have a video-of blue light brigade's-absolutely speeing on the highway 160, swearing,opening thier door a& showing a firearm threatening me eventually swirving me off the road in anger.
   
Anonymous 05:04 - 18 Feb 10
Anonymous
I am an ex-cop, left 12 years ago. Was illegally arrested March 2009. Awaiting civil case. Cops are not above the law. They also don't seem to get it that a SAPS vehicle is not an emergency vehicle
   
Anonymous 17:50 - 05 Mar 10
Anonymous
I was horrified to see this episode on C
   
brigs12 17:52 - 05 Mar 10
brigs12
I was horrified to see this episode on Carte Blanche. Whew, I thought. I don't have to worry about things like this ... I live in a small town. Things like this don't happen in Mosselbay. Well, I am mortified that the local newspaper this week reports the case of a lady who was accosted in her own driveway by four police people. According to her, she was accused of being drunk and when they couldn't prove that, they accused her of skipping a red light and punched her in the face. This is crazy?!
   
Anonymous 09:21 - 15 Mar 10
Anonymous
If I ever call the Police, I insist they send White Reservists. Hey call me a racist, I dont care. But my first consern is the safty of my family and my black domestic worker and her husband.
   
Anonymous 12:01 - 16 Mar 10
Anonymous
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